Politics Feeds - RSS http://feedraider.com/rss-feed/puk5l/ Bernie Sanders: I Want My Leverage! http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/fs60y-ZXlAs/bernie_sanders_i_want_my_leverage.php Meanwhile, on the other end of the liberal political spectrum, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) remains adamant in a statement issued this evening that his vote for a health care reform bill isn't guaranteed, though he stops short of saying he must have a public option in the final bill.



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Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:56:19 GMT
Filibuster Thwarted ... For Now http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/OJu_oZC_J0Q/filibuster_thwarted_for_now.php On a 60-39 party line vote just now, Senate Democrats overcame an attempted Republican filibuster on health care reform.

Determining who the lone senator not voting was. A Republican obviously ... more shortly.

Late Update: Sen. Voinovich did not vote and was not present in the chamber, AFP's Olivier Knox reports.



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Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:08:02 GMT
The Cast Has Assembled http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/RIegnxv8ttw/the_cast_has_assembled.php The only potential monkey wrench in tonight's vote was whether Max Baucus, who was tending to his sick mother in Montana, and Robert Byrd, himself in frail health, would actually be able to be physically present for the vote.

But Baucus is apparently in the building, and Byrd just arrived. So we should be all set for a vote shortly.



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Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:50:50 GMT
Where Does This Leave Us? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/N8V4PptcIJw/where_does_this_leave_us.php The takeaway from today's debate is that the conservative Democratic senators have not budged on a public option. They've been persuaded not to block the bill from going to the floor for debate, but beyond that it doesn't appear any deal has been struck to get their votes on the bill in its current form.

You might attribute that in part to the Dem holdouts wanting to enjoy their moment of maximum leverage for as long as they can, right up until the final vote later this year. But it's wishful thinking to conclude that's the only thing going on here. Blanche Lincoln's floor speech in particular seemed to foreclose her being able to plausibly turn around later and vote for a public option. You can't come out as strongly against it as she did and then vote for it anyway without seriously compounding your political problems back home.

The only reasonable reading of today's developments is that while the Dems will get 60 votes this evening they are still short of the 60 they need to get to a final vote on a bill that includes an opt out public option. Couple that with the fact that there is 100% guaranteed to be a health care reform bill in some shape or form passed by the Senate, and you're left with somebody needing to strike a deal to get this done.

We reported earlier that, according to one Senate aide, Sen. Chuck Schumer has been trying to map out a compromise that would switch the public option from an opt out version to some form of triggered public option that would satisfy the Democratic holdouts (and maybe Olympia Snowe). This apparently ticked off some of the opt out proponents in the Senate, though Schumer's office is vigorously denying to us that Schumer has had any role in any such negotiations.

Pissed at Schumer? Really?

No one's been as committed to the public option as Schumer, and our reporting has suggested that it's very unlikely that the public option would be in the bill today were it not for Schumer's efforts. But for all his work to get a public option through, Schumer is still a pragmatist, and surely he's known for several days what's becoming obvious to all of us today: they don't have the votes. So I'm not sure I get why anyone would be pissed at him for trying to come up with a compromise that gets the votes and preserves as much of the public option as possible.

I mean I "get it" -- emotions are raw and no one who's pushed hard for public option is going to be happy to see it watered down more. But at this point you're just denying reality if you think all that the Dems need to do to get the waverers to come around is stand together in a show of unity. Lieberman is a no. Snowe is a no. Nelson, Landrieu and Lincoln are tepid at best. Whatever peer pressure could be brought to bear is heavily diluted when you're four votes short. If it were one lone holdout, maybe. But four?

I don't have any independent knowledge about whether Schumer's been trying to forge a compromise. But it sure wouldn't surprise me. I'd be more surprised, given what we now know about the lack of votes (or, more precisely, what we've pretty much known but have had confirmed today), if Schumer were not trying to find a compromise. Somebody's got to. This isn't one where you get to just pick up the ball and take it home with you. You still have to play, even if the outcome is guaranteed to disappoint.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:11:57 GMT
There's Your 60 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/7Ouow3EuMc4/theres_your_60.php Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln just announced her support for bringing the health care reform bill to the floor for debate -- so that makes the Dems united ... on debating the bill. Not a surprise, but an important step. The official vote later today still, but now everyone's put their cards on the table.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:27:26 GMT
What Have You Done For Me Lately? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/KE5YBWT6t9U/what_have_you_done_for_me_lately.php Mary Landrieu says Harry Reid will have to make a tough call on the public option at some point very soon, and that Chuck Schumer's at the center of the trigger negotiations.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:09:38 GMT
The Brett Favre Of HCR http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/BEbcEMHlnpU/the_brett_favre_of_hcr.php Mary Landrieu will finally announce her decision on how she'll vote today on cloture on the Senate floor in about 20 minutes.

Hard to imagine she'd go so far as to block the bill from even being debated. Then again, you never know.

Late Update: Landrieu will stick with her party and her President ... for now.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:08:35 GMT
Stupakified http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/DAVTM0VYuSE/stupakified.php In a statement to TPMDC, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) takes issue with that George Washington University study which found that his anti-abortion amendment would ultimately cause insurance companies to stop covering abortions.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:19:21 GMT
UFC Senior Division http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/olC_5XN28go/ufc_senior_division.php On the Senate floor this morning, Majority Leader Harry Reid dismissed David Broder as "a man who has been retired for many years and writes a column once in a while."

The jab came in response to Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's citation of Broder's column set to appear tomorrow.

Broder is 80. Reid is 69.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:54:20 GMT
Tweeting #hcr http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/G_gw3M0gL90/hcr_tweet.php Sarah Palin tells her 25,000 Twitter followers just now:

Thot I'd stick w tour news on Twitter but can't help digress: Call senators! Tell 'em KILL THE BILL tonite;horrible govt healthcare takeover


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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:50:09 GMT
Converge! (If You Live Nearby) http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/kOstNVex29I/converge_if_you_live_nearby.php A Tea Party group that had planned an event to "converge" on the Capitol for today's crucial test vote on health care clarifies - the event is for those "within driving distance of DC" who "want to be there tomorrow when the Senate votes in the cover of darkness on cloture."

Evan McMorris-Santoro has the story.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:24:23 GMT
Golden Dukes http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/_xkVUqutjr8/golden_dukes.php It's hard to believe we're coming up on the third annual Golden Duke Awards.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:36:38 GMT
Mysteries I Need Solved http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/Eee6c0i0nBw/mysteries_i_need_solved.php Anybody know what is behind the craze of right-wing journalists and politicians to dub themselves with J-Lo-esque and/or rap-like nicknames? You know what I'm talking about, right? A particularly virulent trend in the Politico newsroom apparently. But not only there.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:16:14 GMT
Rockin' the DeREG, YO! http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/ePPjz5ae-MI/rockin_the_dereg_yo.php Meet right-wing rapper (aka, "conservative hip-hop artist") Hi Caliber, the toast of the Tea Party circuit who recently appeared in the FreedomWorks-produced video "Patriotic People."



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:36:39 GMT
All About the 60 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/Z4sH3QwV4A8/all_about_the_60.php A Senate Democratic Chief of Staff chimes in ...

There is a lot of misplaced anger coming from many of our fellow progressives about Senate Democrats (which often is just shortened to "The Democrats") inability to pass a robust healthcare reform bill, climate change, etc.
However, I believe it's worth reminding folks that--as long as the Republican Senators hold together--we have to hold EVERY single Democratic Senator, including folks like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson, which is usually impossible unless the legislation in question gets substantially watered down.

So, what we might end up with is a Senate Democratic Caucus that holds 98% of its members but still fails to pass healthcare reform, AND a mob of angry progressives who are screaming for the heads of "the Democrats." This isn't fair, but more importantly, it's self-defeating. If progressives REALLY want to transform America, they'll make an issue of the anti-democratic rules of the Senate which make real change virtually impossible. Blasting their elected Democratic officials, the vast majority of whom will vote for the Senate bill (and would also support a more robust public option if we didn't need 60 votes to achieve cloture), may make folks feel good, but is both short-sighted and stupid.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:18:23 GMT
'Conservative Hip Hop Artist' http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/G315ZoHKDBs/conservative_hip_hop_artist.php Christina Bellantoni catches up with Hi Caliber. Whatever you do, don't call him a Republican rapper.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:33:39 GMT
Special Saturday Coverage http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/UW71vEUm7OU/special_saturday_coverage.php We'll have Brian Beutler on the Hill tomorrow as the full Senate takes up the health care reform bill. This is the first big procedural hurdle: 60 votes to end debate on the motion to bring the bill to the Senate floor. The debate starts at 10 a.m. ET, with the vote expected around 8 p.m. ET. Here's a preview of what to look for. We'll be here through the day with coverage, so as you prep your Thanksgiving feasts you can check in on the latest.



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Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:31:10 GMT
Roguely Going Where No Man Has Gone Before http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/4kfxlLAGQLY/roguely_going_where_no_man_has_gone_before.php Sarah Palin's roguely interview with Bill O'Reilly condensed to a merciful 200 seconds.



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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:46:21 GMT
Don't Get It http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/FBLqGXjz4tE/dont_get_it_2.php "I'm just worried he's going to win this argument for months before he gets executed."

This is Chris Matthews from a few moments ago on Hardball, worrying about the propaganda victories he fears KSM will win spouting jihadist propaganda while on trial in New York City.

As I've said in earlier posts, I simply do not get this. And is from Chris Matthews who's said an improving record of political sanity. First, federal trials give defendants precious little opportunity for free-form court room lectures or speeches to the cameras that don't even exist in federal court.

But what do we have to fear? We're going to lose this argument? Really? Why am I so alone in having confidence in this country and what it stands for?



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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:24:34 GMT
The Big Guns http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/mO1ewpawr-I/the_big_guns.php Swift Boat PR firm is representing Gerald Walpin, the fired IG battling the Obama administration over his involuntary ouster.



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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:12:40 GMT
Missed Opportunity http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/kGMTvH4fWxI/missed_opportunity.php Dems should have let President Bush create universal health care when he was in office.



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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:07:40 GMT
Quick Turnaround http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/lp1t0P8QIhs/quick_turnaround_1.php John McCain just announced that we can succeed in Afghanistan in a mere 12 to 18 months, if only President Obama would get off his butt and send the 40,000 soldiers.



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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:08 GMT
Oy ... Really Dragging It Out http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/C0QOOdUlraE/oy_really_dragging_it_out.php Sen. Landrieu (D-LA) says she's still undecided on voting for cloture but will decide tonight and put out a statement tomorrow morning.



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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:11:58 GMT
Beware Rubio http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/bGET9zsV4GM/beware_rubio.php Not the first Dem I've heard say this. This from TPM Reader EF ...

What you say about Palin is certainly true in general, but her likely endorsee in FL - Marco Rubio - is one of the only Republicans in the country right now who really worried me as a Democrat. He's young, telegenic, polished, Latino in a too-white party, a father of four married to a former Dolphins cheerleader, and politically talented enough to rise to Speaker of the state House before he was term-limited out. Granted, his conservatism is of the '01-'05 W. Bush vintage, but he worries me as much as any Republican in the country this side of John Thune (which says as much about the Republicans as it does about Rubio, but still). If I had to bet my life savings on who would be the Republican VP nominee in 2016, I'd definitely take Rubio.


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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:08:55 GMT
Don't Miss a Beat http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/WfLwoTS5zmQ/dont_miss_a_beat.php New developments keep popping through the day in the senate health care bill debate. Check out this page to see all our health care reform debate updates over the course of the day.



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